Primer is finally on!

"The Swedish Bandit" (swedishbandit) 06/29/2018 at 14:40 • Filed to: joy, paint

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After many days weeks months of hard work primer is finally on the F irebird body.

There are a few areas which require a bit more work but hey that’s what this primer is for anyways. I was also juuust a bit short on the amount I ordered from the painter (1L) so I need some more to fill in a few areas which there wasn’t enough to cover so no big deal.

Floor and firewall will be pained black this weekend and then real paint will be laid on beginning of next week if everything goes according to plan.

Which brings me to my next problem, which color should I choose?? It’s been yellow before (which I like) but I feel like I kinda have to paint it something else this time since all of the remaining yellow will be gone once I’m done. 

Takuro Spirit > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 14:43

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I was always partial to white with a blue chicken on the hood....

crowmolly > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 14:46

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Cool!

Is this etch or epoxy primer?

lone_liberal > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 14:48

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I like going with an improved version of the original color. Like my Camaro was originally gold but somebody in the past painted it red. I’d like to bring it back to gold using a modern version that has more depth and richness than the original placer gold.

The Swedish Bandit > Takuro Spirit 06/29/2018 at 14:51

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But it feels like such a “nice” color! This is not a nice car, this is a ba dass death trap looking to murder you and your family at first chance.

The Swedish Bandit > crowmolly 06/29/2018 at 14:52

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I guess the correct term would be etch since it adds a layer which fills in small holes and such and is then meant to be sanded some before paint.

crowmolly > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 14:53

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That’s primer surfacer. Did you use anything else before that? Is the stuff you used a DTM?

Wacko > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 14:55

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What about silver?

crowmolly > lone_liberal 06/29/2018 at 14:56

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Something with more yellow in it would probably look great. The one you posted has that 70's earth tone harvest gold thing going.

The Swedish Bandit > lone_liberal 06/29/2018 at 14:57

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Yeah but how do you improve on yellow?!

M.T. Blake > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 14:59

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What is the original color? Red and yellow will be the most expensive. Black is difficult to get flawless. What type of build will this be? Stock appearing? Pro-touring? I’d say go with an original factory  color if you’re going for a stock look. Otherwise go loud for Pro-Touring. Find a deep purple. Definitely don’t see many purple Firebirds. 

The Swedish Bandit > crowmolly 06/29/2018 at 15:00

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On the places were there was bare metal i put something else under it to make it stick (don’t know the English name of it). However most of the car consisted of the old paint which had just been sanded down.

No idea what a DTM is, sorry!  

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:00

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I would personally do something a little wild or different since you are going through this much work. Buuut, yellow is always a good color. I’m also a fan of deep purples, greens of all flavors, oranges, bright blues, etc. Black, white, and silvers are wayy too boring. Why go through this much effort for something boring ;)

crowmolly > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:06

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Sorry, DTM means direct to metal.

Some primers are made to go directly over metal (that’s in the proper grit finish) and they offer corrosion protection.

Other primers are made to go over some other primer or properly scuffed finish.

Didn’t know yours was a scuff. As long as the original paint is finished in the right grit it’s no big deal. Happy sanding!

The Swedish Bandit > M.T. Blake 06/29/2018 at 15:08

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Original color would have been yellow. Car has been repainted many times but never in any different color, just different nuances.

It’s absolute l y not a stock build but it’s no full on pro-touring either as I try to keep it “as if” it could have been build in the 70's. So 15" wheels with fat tires and the air cleaner sticking up through the hood is still staying.  

The Swedish Bandit > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor 06/29/2018 at 15:09

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Right?! I want this car to be both seen and heard when I show up. Don’t think I could pull of a purple but a green I could definitely see myself doing.

lone_liberal > crowmolly 06/29/2018 at 15:10

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Harvest gold describes it perfectly. That picture pretty well represents the original color, though the stripes are strangely wrong, and it is pure ‘70 harvest gold.   

Takuro Spirit > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:12

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Soooo, dirty red then?

Or yellow but with strips:

lone_liberal > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:13

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Was yellow from the factory? If it was I’d stick with that yellow as it’s pretty bitchin’ but if you do want to change it maybe go blue?

LOREM IPSUM > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:17

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If you want to both be seen and be 70's custom, metal flake. Gold, preferably, perhaps with slatherings of orange and b rown throughout.

It should sparkle like the bottom of a bass boat.

The Swedish Bandit > crowmolly 06/29/2018 at 15:18

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No worries! I guess a DTM is what I laid on the firewall, which was bare metal. I have this local professional painter which I buy the paint from and he’s great since he tells me exactly what I need to do for the job I’m doing.

As soon as everything’s dry tomorrow I’ll get back to the sanding

crowmolly > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:20

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Cool!

And one last thing, if you decide to go with a metallic paint job, just know that it might be best for you to paint the car assembled vs. in pieces. Solid color it’s probably OK to do apart.

Keep posting pics!

The Swedish Bandit > lone_liberal 06/29/2018 at 15:27

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Yeah but it would have been a pretty bleak yellow so not very nice IMO

Also r eally don’t like blue, sorry! :(

Also also! the picture you posted seem to be from another Swedish car which seem to be posing in front of Göta Canal which is one of the largest man made canals in the world and only 30 min away from where I live.

The Swedish Bandit > Takuro Spirit 06/29/2018 at 15:30

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Stripes might actually not be a bad idea. I have a friend who will basically print out anything I ask them to so maybe I should go for some crazy 70's look?

The Swedish Bandit > crowmolly 06/29/2018 at 15:33

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Oh okay didn’t know that, thanks for the tip! I was originally planning on doing solids and painting everything apart since I still haven’t touched the doors or fenders but if I’m doing metallic I might need to take care of those right now as well. 

The Swedish Bandit > LOREM IPSUM 06/29/2018 at 15:35

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Yeah I want to be flashy but maybe not that flashy. AHH I don’t even know anymore!, I’m arguing against myself right now!

lone_liberal > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:37

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I meant sticking with the sort of yellow it was in that picture. The factory colors are definitely bleak. Sorry about the blue. I’m not much for white, black, silver, and gray since those are so overdone in new cars. I have a personal dislike of green, other than BRG, on cars but you might like it and a really, really dark green might not be bad .

Evidently Swedes like their Firebirds!  

crowmolly > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:39

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Yeah, it has to do with how the metallic flakes lay down in the paint and how the panels tie together. If you paint adjacent panels from different angles the metallic can look off.

Takuro Spirit > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:40

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70's style is all the rage... or should be.

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LOREM IPSUM > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:44

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Kinda kidding about the flake. It would be very 70's custom, but doing the whole car in it would be way too much and would probably look gaudy.

Now, if it happened to have stripes anywhere in it's plans, or a 2-tone motif where is could be used a bit more sparingly, I'd be in I think.

The Swedish Bandit > lone_liberal 06/29/2018 at 15:45

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I’m all for the yellow but I just seems like a waste of doing all this work getting the car down to it’s bare bones and then just ending up painting it the same color again :/

Anything that has classic American written over it is popular in Sweden. I *think* I read somewhere that there are more classic american cars in S weden per capita than in the states. I’m inclined to belie ve that since everyone I know that drives a merican also seem to have at least 2-3 cars in total.

The Swedish Bandit > Takuro Spirit 06/29/2018 at 15:49

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YES!

#MakeThe70'sGreatAgain

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 15:51

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Not even a dark metallic purple sorta like plum crazy? But, I would never tell someone not to go with g reen haha

The Swedish Bandit > LOREM IPSUM 06/29/2018 at 15:53

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Stripes is definitely and option!

Maybe something similar to the old school Boss mustang?

The Swedish Bandit > SPAMBot - Horse Doctor 06/29/2018 at 15:57

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Maybe works on a Challenger but on the F irebird it just looks a bit too strange for my taste.

The Swedish Bandit > Wacko 06/29/2018 at 15:58

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No! Boring and I’ll just end up thinking about my old W203 Mercedes.

M.T. Blake > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 16:03

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Keep it yellow and stick the chicken on the hood. 

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > The Swedish Bandit 06/29/2018 at 16:47

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I’d agree with that. I guess you need a bigger, fatter car with harder corners to make it work. My vote is green!

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Wacko 06/29/2018 at 17:32

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Reflective metallic silver because I need to be reminded that jumbo jets had an aluminum underbelly that is distinctly 70s.

sn4cktimes > LOREM IPSUM 06/30/2018 at 13:17

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I was also going to say gold. I’ve seen a brass coloured car before. Was pretty awesome.